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SEGMENT
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SEGMENT 3
SEGMENT
2 - Arsenal of Democracy
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NARRATOR:
IN 1939, AMERICA HAD GUARDEDLY WATCHED AS HITLER’S ARMY
SLOWLY DEVOURED EACH EUROPEAN COUNTRY. REMAINING ISOLATIONIST,
WE INVOLVED OURSELVES ONLY THROUGH THE LEND LEASE ACT,
SUPPLYING MUNITIONS TO GREAT BRITAIN AND RUSSIA, WHILE
ALSO GIVING OUR OWN DEPRESSION-WEARY PEOPLE JOBS. WE
ASSUMED WE WERE SAFE FROM GLOBAL ENTANGLEMENT.
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Irvin,
J …if the Japanese had not bombed Pearl Harbor I don’t
think we’d been as united as we were.
Pollard...it increased the anger of the nation
to the point that they was more geared up to do the things
they had to support the military and the nation.
Dillingham …American industry went to work, and
you wouldn’t believe how fast we converted to making airplanes
and tractors and trucks and tanks and ammunition and guns...
Fact, a lot was going on right here in Kansas City.
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CITY
LEADERS CONVINCED THE WAR PRODUCTION BOARD IN DC THAT
THE MIDWEST WAS A PRIME LOCATION FOR WARTIME INDUSTRY:
FAR ENOUGH INLAND FROM ENEMY ATTACK, YET CENTRAL FOR
AIR, TRUCKING, RAIL AND RIVER MOBILITY. THE BOARD WAS
TOLD TO COME TO KANSAS CITY AND WAKE THE "SLEEPING INDUSTRIAL
GIANT." IT WORKED. NATIONAL COMPANIES CAME TO TOWN TO
BUILD THEIR WAR MACHINES. LOCAL COMPANIES EAGER TO JOIN
THE FIGHT CONVERTED FROM PEACETIME TO WAR TIME PRODUCTIONS.
...IN ORDER TO AWAKEN THIS GREAT SLEEPING GIANT OF AMERICAN
INDUSTRY, WE NEEDED PEOPLE. AS 13 MILLION MEN HEADED
INTO BATTLE, EVERY WOMAN, TEENAGER, RETIREE, MINORITY
AND PHYSICALLY CHALLENGED PERSON WAS CALLED UPON TO
FIGHT OUR FOES WITH WELDING GUNS AND MACHINE LATHES.
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Pollard
- if you went and put a notice in the paper, you would
have people all backed up for a mile waiting to get in line
and get an application
Ellis - Of course, everybody wanted to work in the
defense plants because, there again, everybody had been
so poor for so long….
Sextro ...I was working for .50 a day back in the
country. And I came down here and was making $1 an hour.
Well, I was uptown then! …
Edwards …And there were many people that couldn’t
go to service because of a health problem or some, or age…
but wanted to do their part. So they all went to work as
much as they could with these different companies.
Thomas People were recruited to just do everything.
NAA even had blind people that did their job and did it
well. Winn I had already lost a leg and knew I wasn’t going
to be into combat. And I thought because of the shortage
of men, that if I couldn’t get in the service why, I could
get a job.
Bergman …when I was 17, I went to work for American
Telephone and Telegraph on indoor maintenance… with virtually
no experience in this kind of equipment…an opportunity that
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IT WAS WOMEN WHO WERE THE MAIN TARGET FOR WORK IN THE
DEFENSE PLANTS. AND NOT JUST ANY KIND OF WORK. ROSIE
RIVETERS AND WINNIE WELDERS FILLED THE FACTORIES AND
SHIPYARDS, STEPPING IN FOR OUR FIGHTING GIS.
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Thomas
The women were wonderful. They just dived in and learned
their jobs. And of course it was non traditional for all
the women.
Smith, P …you probably would never have thought
about working in a place like that otherwise. …it was
all as foreign to us as going to Europe was to my husband
when he went there.
Cantrell…started out, we had all men. Gradually,
we lost the men and turned over to women. And before we
was through we had all women...They did a hell of a lot
better job than the men did. The
only thing is about the women, we didn’t know how to scold
them … So we just figured out the best way to do is to
give them hell or whatever it is and then run. Get clear
away. Don’t let them, don’t let them get the last word
in. And we was okay then.
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DEFENSE
WORKERS WERE COMING FROM ALL WALKS OF LIFE TO WORK IN
THESE UNFAMILIAR INDUSTRIES. TRAINING WAS ESSENTIAL.
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Smith,
P …of course, a lot of them were like us and came
from farm areas and never seen a machine like they had.
They had drill presses, and they had engine lathes…
Chowning...
I’d never looked at a blueprint before. And that kind
of dazzled me
Desko… we had to know the different…kinds of metal,
the ways to test them. We had to learn rivets and bolts
and nuts. …
Chowning... They teach you to rivet, how to use
a drill gun, to drill the rivet out in case it wasn’t
right…
Smith, P... And so you’d work on the milling machine
little while until you kind of learned how to use that.
Then they’d transfer you over to the grinder so you’d
learn how to run the grinders. They were trying to keep
us from killing ourselves on those things.
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THE
JOBS THEY TRAINED FOR WERE AS MYRIAD AS THE PRODUCTS
THEY MADE.
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Cantrell
I was foreman, then I was general foreman. I took care of
the three shifts later on. …
Smith I could operate any machine in our department.
Thomas... I was a welder... Winnie the Welder
Chowning I was a riveter and installed ailerons…you
know the little flaps? It makes those flaps move. That’s
all I had to know….
Irvin, J … And I ran a turret lathe
Desko... I did drilling and riveting and all that
fine stuff, sheet metal work. …
Irvin, J …10 hours a day, 6 days a week…
Laycock … we worked from 7 o’clock in the morning
until ten o’clock at night, most times.
Desko... I had a stamp, an inspector stamp. …My number
was 457. I stamped it, it was either rejected or it passed...
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OUR
FIRST CHANCE TO SHOW THE MILITARY THAT KANSAS CITY COULD
HANDLE LARGE SCALE PRECISION PRODUCTION WAS AT LAKE
CITY ORDNANCE IN LATE 1940. PEOPLE FLOCKED FROM ALL
OVER TO MAKE THE 30 & 50 CALIBER CARTRIDGES FOR REMINGTON
ARMS.
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Pollard …practically every member of the family worked
here. There was mothers, there were daughters, there were fathers,
sons, grandparents.. and eventually there were 21,000 people employed
here. |
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FROM
THE OPENING OF THE PLANT UNTIL IT CLOSED IN LATE 1945, LAKE
CITY DELIVERED 5.9 BILLION ROUNDS OF AMMUNITION TO THE ARMED
FORCES. A SHORT DRIVE FROM KANSAS CITY, THE MUNITIONS PLANT
ALSO PROVIDED AFFORDABLE WARTIME ENTERTAINMENT FOR FAMILIES.
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Ziegenhorn…
we would be able to drive the car close enough that at night time
we could see tracer bullets. I suppose they were being tested.
…And again that made me feel like I was a part of the war, and
our community was a part of the war. |
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PRECISION
IN PRODUCTION WAS ALSO IMPORTANT AT SUNFLOWER ORDNANCE WORKS,
NEAR DESOTO, KANSAS. THE HERCULES PLANT SUPPLIED EXTREMELY
ESSENTIAL, YET EXTREMELY VOLATILE CANNON & ROCKET POWDER.
AND DESPITE HIGH SAFETY STANDARDS, FIRES AND ACCIDENTS DID
HAPPEN -- SOME LOST THEIR LIVES. BUT THAT DIDN’T PREVENT SUNFLOWER
FROM BECOMING THE LARGEST ROCKET POWDER PRODUCING PLANT IN
THE UNITED STATES BY THE END OF WWII. BUTLER MANUFACTURING
WAS ALREADY MAKING STEEL BUILDINGS AND REFUELING TANKS FOR
THE GOVERNMENT WHEN WAR BROKE OUT. BUT THEIR MOST REMARKABLE
PRODUCT WAS THE BUTLER LANDING MAT. THESE 10-FOOT BY 15-INCH
INTER-LOCKING STEEL PLANKS WERE USED AS SIDEWALKS, FLOORS,
FOOTBRIDGES AND RAMPS ON INVASION BEACHES.
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Brazeal
... our first landing mats went over to Omaha Beach, you know,
where they first went into Normandy |
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LARGER
COMBINATIONS OF THE MATS WERE LAID OUT, ALLOWING THE BIG BOMBERS
TO LAND ON THE SANDY PACIFIC ISLANDS. BY WAR’S END, BUTLER
HAD PRODUCED OVER 29 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF LANDING MATS.
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Brazeal
…that would have been enough to hook it up from Chicago to San
Francisco back to Kansas City. |
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THE FLEDGLING
AVIATION AND ELECTRONICS INDUSTRIES HAD BECOME VITAL FOR MODERN
WARFARE, AND KANSAS CITY WAS AT THE CORE OF PRODUCTION. PRATT
& WHITNEY CAME TO TOWN TO MANUFACTURE THEIR DOUBLE WASP AIRPLANE
ENGINE FOR THE NAVY. 23,000 PEOPLE BUILT & ASSEMBLED THE INTRICATE
MACHINE IN THE HUGE COMPLEX AT BANNISTER & TROOST, CALLED
THE WASP NEST.
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Cantrell…when
I first went there I seen all these parts all laid all over
every place. And I told them, "My god there’s a lot of parts."
And they kind of laughed at me a little bit… it all stayed in
the same building and went over to the assembly. And over in
the assembly they would put it together and then they would
put it in their test cells and test it out. And then where it
went then I had no idea.
Dungans… I remember sometimes when I would have to go
down and take something somewhere, walked through were all the
test cells were, that was a wild noise. …
Cantrell … And we put out an engine faster more engines,
and cheaper, and better than what they was doing in Hartford,
Connecticut, the parent plant.
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KANSAS
CITY’S SOLE PRIME DEFENSE CONTRACT WAS FOR THE FAMOUS B-25
BILLY MITCHELL MEDIUM BOMBER. BUILT BY NORTH AMERICAN AVIATION,
OVER 59,000 PEOPLE TOILED AT THE FAIRFAX PLANT, DOING WHATEVER
IT TOOK TO CREATE EACH MASTERPIECE.
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Ellis
… the part of the plane that we worked on was the center
section and there were three gas bays on each section where
the wing would eventually join on. And I would get stuck down
in those gas bays, head first down or any other way you could
in there…and all these rivets going like machine guns everywhere.
I don’t know how I can hear anything to this day but I have
good hearing.
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AT ANY
ONE TIME, APPROXIMATELY 100 AIRPLANES WERE IN SOME STAGE OF
PRODUCTION
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Desko
… And when you got up to where some of there, the holding
cell or maybe there’s a wing on they really looked big. But you
look at the size of them compared to the B-29 and different ones,
they are definitely a medium sized plane. |
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B-25'S
WERE ALSO BROUGHT BACK TO KANSAS CITY FOR MODIFICATION, ADDING
MACHINE GUNS, CANNONS OR THE LATEST IN ELECTRONIC EQUIPMENT.
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Desko …most of the plant operation was designing. One foreman
probably would find out, "well, we need a part like this". He
would take that up to the designing department, they would design
it. Draftmans would draw it out, and then someone would make a
part. And then from there on out, we’d make them in quantity.
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TO THIS
DAY, THE BOMBER BUILDERS STILL GET A THRILL WHEN THEY SEE
ONE OF THEIR OLD FRIENDS.
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Ellis...
But you could hear a B-25 and you knew that was what it was…we
just wanted "Yeah, there’s one of ours up there." |
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UNLIKE
THE B-25, THE WACO GLIDER WAS MEANT TO BE SILENT, SO YOU WERE
LUCKY IF YOU CAUGHT A GLIMPSE OF ONE SOARING ABOVE FAIRFAX
AIRPORT.
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Davis...You
didn’t see them very often…but every once in awhile you could
look up… and they would glide around up there for awhile and then
come on in and land.
Thomas... A glider is just a framework of metal piping
and then it’s covered with some kind of a fabric. Of course, they’re
made to be disposable, so there wasn’t much to them. |
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CONSTRUCTED
IN THE AMERICAN ROYAL BUILDINGS, THE RUGGED INVASION GLIDER
HAD A WING SPAN OF 84 FEET, 50% GREATER THAN THE B-25.
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Sextro… that arena was full of welding. All the different
pieces and the frame… I was out in the cow pens and the sheep
pens. It was something when it would get a damp-ish,…. It was
just spotless, it was clean …but there would still be that farm
smell come in there … |
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TOWED
BY C47S INTO ENEMY TERRITORY, GLIDER PILOTS MADE DEAD-STICK
LANDINGS, CARRYING JEEPS, BULLDOZERS, FIELD ARTILLERY AND
TROOPS.
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Dillingham…I
never did think anybody in his right mind would glide, ride one
of those things into a foreign country. But we did and it worked. |
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SENATOR
HARRY DARBY WAS ALSO INSTRUMENTAL IN BRINGING DEFENSE WORK
TO THE MIDWEST. AT HIS STEELWORKS, HE BUILT LOCOMOTIVE BOILERS
AND 1000- AND 4000-POUND BOMB CASINGS. BUT THE TRUE HEROES
WERE AT KAW POINT WHERE THE AMPHIBIOUS LCTS AND LCMS WERE
BUILT. 2000 OF THESE LANDING CRAFT WERE LAUNCHED INTO THE
CONFLUENCE OF THE MISSOURI AND KANSAS RIVERS, MAKING THE 1000
MILE JOURNEY TO NEW ORLEANS, AND THEN TO POINTS BEYOND.
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Winn...
Well a launching is like we see in the movies, the LST comes down
the ramp and ‘Phoom’, splash and there’s a big splash of water
and everybody shouts and yells, "Hooray", you know, it didn’t
sink. |
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IN LATE
’43, NAVY OFFICIALS DESPERATELY NEEDED SIXTY OF THE DARBY
LCTS, YET RIVER LEVELS WERE LOW. WITH NO CHANGE AFTER RELEASING
WATER FROM A DAM UPRIVER, THE GOVERNMENT DEMANDED THAT THE
HUGE VESSELS BE TRANSPORTED BY HIGHWAY, BRIDGES WERE TO BE
DESTROYED ALONG THE WAY.
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Edwards…
we were very fortunate because the night before they were to,
to destroy this bridge work, we had a heavenly rain and they had
enough water that they were able to launch them and to get them
down. |
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THE FOLLOWING
JUNE, THE REASON FOR THE FRENZIED ORDERS BECAME CLEAR...D-DAY.
FOR FEAR OF THE MYTHICAL "FIFTH COLUMN," NO ONE AT DARBY COULD
KNOW THE TRUE REASON FOR THE HASTE. SECURITY AT EVERY DEFENSE
PLANT WAS A MUST.
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Bergman
…And when I applied for the job, I had my fingerprints taken and
background search by the FBI…
Chowning …there was gates that you went through right where
the streetcars let you out and you had to have a badge. If you
didn’t have that badge on, you couldn’t get in…
Cantrell …and as you went out…you opened your lunch bucket
up just to show them as you went out that you didn’t have half
the tools in your lunch bucket or something.
Desko And you didn’t talk to people about the job.
Ellis …they had these stickers all over the walls "Loose
lips sink ships" one I remember so much…
Kozak... There were arrests made. People who were suspected
of sabotage… And people who maybe because of what they said, or
how they said it, made people nervous about what their allegiance
might be… |
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IN CONTRAST,
THE DEFENSE WORKER WAS ALSO REWARDED FOR HER HARD WORK WITH
THE PRESTIGIOUS ARMY NAVY "E" AWARD, GIVEN TO COMPANIES FOR
MEETING PRODUCTION & SAFETY GOALS. BUT THE HONOR MERELY REFLECTED
THE TRUE GOAL BEHIND THE VALIANT WORK ETHIC.
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Ellis
… Maybe that was your brother or your son or somebody you knew
that was going to be flying that airplane and you didn’t want
to do anything that would make it subject to failing or something.
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KANSAS
CITY ULTIMATELY RECEIVED 450 WAR CONTRACTS, ACHIEVING A MAJOR
FINANCIAL GOAL WITH ONE PERCENT OF EVERY AMERICAN DOLLAR GOING
TO FIRMS IN JACKSON, CLAY AND WYANDOTTE COUNTIES. AMERICAN
FARMERS COULD ALSO BE PROUD OF THEIR WARTIME EFFORT, PRODUCING
ENOUGH TO FEED NOT ONLY OUR MILITARY AND CIVILIAN POPULATIONS
BUT MILLIONS OF OUR ALLIES OVERSEAS.
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Palmer...
Actually the farmers did very well during the war years. There
was rain, the crops were good, the prices were high. Many, many
farmers were able to pull themselves out of the Depression because
of the war. …that was one good thing that came out of it, not,
not the way we would have wanted to do it… |
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CROPS
WERE BOUNTIFUL, BUT A LABOR DROUGHT AROSE AS SONS AND FATHERS
WENT TO WAR. A GREAT DEAL OF FARM WORK WAS DONE BY THE WOMEN’S
LAND ARMY, PUTTING IN AS MANY "MAN" HOURS AS POSSIBLE. BUT
BY 1944, THE LABOR SHORTAGE HAD BECOME SEVERE. THE SOLUTION
WAS AN UNUSUAL ONE. FROM 1942 THROUGH 1946, MORE THAN 400,000
GERMAN, ITALIAN AND JAPANESE PRISONERS OF WAR WERE INTERNED
IN THE UNITED STATES. SCATTERED AMONG 150 MAIN CAMPS AND 500
BRANCH CAMPS, THESE MEN PROVIDED MUCH NEEDED LABOR ON FARMS
AND IN NON-WAR-RELATED FACTORIES. SEVERAL OF THESE SUB-CAMPS
WERE LOCATED AROUND KANSAS CITY. IN LIBERTY, THE MILLER FAMILY
CONTRACTED THEIR TURKEY FARM TO THE GOVERNMENT TO HOUSE 600
OF ROMMEL’S ELITE FIFTH AFRICAN CORPS.
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Miller
…they looked like they were cloned, blond hair, blue eyed…real
physical specimens. I learned how my name should sound in German,
"Philip Muller, Philip Muller, How are you today, Philip Muller"
and they'd throw me around like a sack of sugar to each other.
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THE GERMAN
POWS IN LEAVENWORTH WERE CAPTURED AFTER D-DAY, AND WERE AMAZED
WHEN THEY ARRIVED IN THE U.S.
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Laycock
… they didn’t believe they were in New York harbor, because
their propaganda had told them that NY had been absolutely bombed
to the ground. |
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60 TO
70 ITALIAN POWS WERE STATIONED AS CLOSE AS THE RIVERSIDE RACETRACK.
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Davis…
we would talk to the prisoners. A lot of them could speak pretty
good English. And they liked it here because they knew that they
wasn’t going to get shot at. … |
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THE ITALIAN
POWS EVEN ATTENDED MASS AT HOLY ROSARY CATHOLIC CHURCH.
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Bongino
…And here were these fellas getting off the trucks in these
old gray suits… And talking to people in the language and, listening
to mass, some of which was in Italian for their sake, so that’s
about the closest war ever got to us there. |
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HOWEVER
THEIR TIME WAS SPENT, THEY WERE ALWAYS GRATEFUL FOR A FRIENDLY
FACE.
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Laycock
…Please take this little hand-made jewel case as a Christmas
gift. …Maybe it sounds like a kind of sentimentalism, but you
cannot imagine how we are feeling while we are living behind that
terrible barbed wire.…Once you shook hands with me, I felt very
happy in that moment. Maybe I can repay it after the war. Yours,
Gunther Bishop. |
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PERHAPS
IT WAS EASY TO BEFRIEND THE GERMAN AND ITALIAN PRISONERS BECAUSE
WE HAD NEIGHBORS OF THOSE NATIONALITIES. THE SAME CIVILITY,
HOWEVER, WAS NOT EXTENDED TO THE AMERICAN-BORN JAPANESE, OR
NISEI. DUE TO THE FEAR OF SABOTAGE, ENTIRE POPULATIONS OF
NISEI WERE FORCED INTO INTERNMENT CAMPS. DOCTOR WILLIAM LINDSAY
YOUNG, THE PRESIDENT OF PARK UNIVERSITY, THEN PARK COLLEGE,
WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE COLLEGE STUDENTS IN THESE CAMPS. THROUGH
A GOVERNMENT AGENCY, HE WAS ABLE TO HELP SOME OF THEM ATTEND
SELECT MIDWESTERN COLLEGES ---- FIFTEEN NISEI CAME TO PARK.
WELL-KNOWN FOR INTERNATIONAL OUTREACH, THE PARK STUDENT BODY
EMBRACED THE NEWCOMERS. THE CITIZENS OF PARKVILLE, HOWEVER,
DID NOT.
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H.Smith ….As a matter of fact, the mayor was quoted in
one of the NY newspapers as saying, "If California doesn’t want
those Japs, we don’t them." And so, a number of the merchants
downtown said, "Well if they come ‘round here and want to buy
groceries at our grocery story, or something at the drug store
down here, we’re not going to serve them." So one of the things
that the rest of we students were told on the campus was, "Don’t
ever let them go down there alone, by themselves. Always make
sure that one of you or more goes with them."…That’s the way we
did it. |
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THE NISEI
GRADUATES WENT ON TO GREAT CAREERS, AND LOOK BACK ON THEIR
TIME AT PARK FONDLY, ILLUSTRATED BY A DONATION LETTER TO THE
COLLEGE FROM DR. WILLIAM YAMAMOTO, A DISTINGUISHED PROFESSOR
AT THE UNIVERSITY OF PENNSYLVANIA MEDICAL SCHOOL.
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H.
Smith …and he went on to say "that in a time when life was
dreadful for me, Park College saved me. And so I make this contribution
to Park College in memory of that." One of the most touching letters
I’ve ever seen. |
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