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SEGMENT
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SEGMENT 2
SEGMENT
3 - The Ultimate Sacrifice
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NARRATOR:
IN SEPTEMBER OF 1940, TWO MONTHS AFTER THE FALL
OF FRANCE, CONGRESS PASSED THE SELECTIVE SERVICE ACT,
REQUIRING ADULT MALES BETWEEN THE AGES OF 21 AND 35
TO REGISTER FOR THE DRAFT. NATIONAL GUARD AND RESERVE
UNITS WERE ORDERED TO ACTIVE DUTY FOR ONE YEAR, PREPARING
FOR THE WORST. BUT WHEN IT HAPPENED, WE WERE STILL CAUGHT
OFF GUARD.
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Pollard
- And I think it was a cowardice thing on Japan’s
part, but I also think that some of our military should
have known that such a fleet was moving across the Pacific.
Desko - And I heard it on the radio... immediately
I thought well, this little boy’s going to go to the Army...
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OVER
NIGHT, RECRUITING OFFICES WERE CRAMMED WITH ENRAGED
CITIZENS READY TO DEFEND THEIR HOMELAND. KANSAS CITY
QUICKLY FILLED DRAFT QUOTAS…BEGINNING WITH NOEL CRAVEN.
NOEL AND HIS FAMILY WERE CELEBRATING HIS 17TH BIRTHDAY
WHEN THEY HEARD THE DEVASTATING NEWS OF PEARL HARBOR.
THE NEXT MORNING, NOEL WAS THE FIRST RECRUIT IN LINE
AT THE NAVY ENLISTMENT OFFICE IN KANSAS CITY.
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when I woke up the next day, Noel was gone... Then that
was the last time I saw him was the day of his birthday.
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NOEL
SHIPPED OUT ON A TANKER AS A GUNNER’S MATE, AND DURING
THE CORAL SEA BATTLE, BECAME ONE OF OUR FIRST CASUALTIES.
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Holland…he
was killed by a plane that they had shot down and it crashed
on the ship…I had never seen my father cry until then.
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MEN LIKE NOEL WERE KNOWN AS THE AVENGERS OF PEARL HARBOR,
VOLUNTEERING FOR SERVICE. YET MEN WHO WERE DRAFTED DID
NOT BEGRUDGE THEIR PATRIOTIC DUTY. EVEN THOSE EXEMPT
FROM SERVICE, DECLARED EITHER 4-F OR AS AN ESSENTIAL
WORKER, WISHED TO DO THEIR PART.
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Winn
…they didn’t want a fellow with one leg anywhere.
Which I still think was a big mistake. They could have
used me and let somebody, release somebody else for active
combat if that was their concern
Miller... My father, I remember as a child having
him come in this one evening all distraught, and actually
almost in tears, he’d try to join the army and the army
refused to take him…they said you’ll do more good staying
on the farm right where you are, and dad was, he felt
like he wasn’t doing his part.
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THE NEW RECRUITS TRAVELED TO FORT LEAVENWORTH FOR INDUCTION,
WHERE THEY TOOK PHYSICALS AND WERE ASSIGNED EITHER ARMY
OR NAVY. FROM THERE THEY WENT TO BOOT CAMP OR OTHER
TRAINING SITES THROUGHOUT THE STATES. THE CIRCUMSTANCES
ALSO CALLED FOR ACCELERATED OFFICER’S TRAINING AT VARIOUS
COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES. LOCALLY, THESE 90 DAY WONDERS
COULD BE FOUND IN A NAVAL V-12 UNIT AT PARK COLLEGE
OR ON THE CAMPUS OF KU, TRAINING IN THE MERCHANT MARINES,
COAST GUARD AND NAVAL AIR CORPS. IN KANSAS CITY, THE
ARMY SIGNAL CORPS SET UP SCHOOLS SPECIALIZING IN RADIO
AND RADAR COMMUNICATIONS. AND AS A HOTBED FOR AVIATION,
IT WAS NOT UNUSUAL TO SEE GLIDER PILOTS AND PARATROOPERS
CIRCLING THE SKIES AROUND LOCAL AIR FIELDS LIKE FAIRFAX,
GRANDVIEW AND RICHARD’S FIELD. NAVAL AVIATION CADETS
ALSO RECEIVED PRIMARY TRAINING AT THE NAVAL AIR STATION
IN OLATHE, KANSAS, 25 MILES SOUTH OF KANSAS CITY —1000
MILES FROM THE NEAREST COAST.
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One of the reasons was that it was in the center part of
the United States. Obviously if the Japanese had wanted
to come in and bomb, they could not have made it from the
West Coast to here. … who would believe the navy would be
in the middle of the United States to support ships… |
IN THE FIRST TWO YEARS, NEARLY 4500 CADETS WERE PHASED
THROUGH NAS-OLATHE, INCLUDING JOHN GLENN AND BOB BARKER.
THE CADETS TRAINED IN TWO-SEATER BI-PLANES, NICKNAMED
"YELLOW PERILS," WHICH PREPARED THEM FOR THEIR NEXT
ASSIGNMENT. IN 1942, WOMEN WERE FINALLY GIVEN THE CHANCE
TO JOIN THE MILITARY, IF ONLY TO PROVIDE NON-COMBAT
JOBS IN OFFICE AND COMMUNICATIONS WORK.
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Lackey
…we weren’t trying to take the place of soldiers,
we were just trying to do the jobs behind the lines…where
an able body man could pick up the gun and go.
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AS THEIR MALE COUNTERPARTS, FEMALE RECRUITS WERE SENT
TO BOOT CAMP FOR TRAINING.
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| Lackey...
Our basic training was very similar to the same that
the men got at that time. We did the same calisthenics,
only not quite so many.… we all saluted the officers and
then stuck our tongues out at the sergeants when they were
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350,000
WOMEN SERVED THEIR COUNTRY UNDER THE UNUSUAL ACRONYMS
OF WACS, WAVES, WASPS AND SPARS. NAS-OLATHE WAS HOME
TO FORTY WAVES, OR WOMEN ACCEPTED FOR VOLUNTEER EMERGENCY
SERVICE.
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| Miles...
I was a flight orderly, Naval Air Transport service. …and
we carried supplies, cargo and if we had room, we carried
passengers in the bucket seats.… if we had weight room,
we would carry boys, Army, Navy or Marines that were trying
to get across the United States. |
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WERE THE WOMEN AIR SERVICE PILOTS AT FAIRFAX RELEGATED
TO DESK JOBS. INSTEAD OF TOTING CARGO, THE WASPS ACTUALLY
PILOTED PLANES FRESH FROM AREA FACTORIES TO THE WAR
FRONT. THE WOMEN HAD TO BE SKILLED IN FLYING EVERY TYPE
OF PLANE IMAGINABLE, INCLUDING THE HUGE B-29S AND B-17S.
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| Desko
…women flew our B-25s out of Fairfax out to the coasts
where they were loaded and …flew them right to the field
… And some of them are still alive and still bragging about
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WHETHER THEY WERE FRESH RECRUITS ON THEIR WAY TO TRAINING,
OR SEASONED SOLDIERS HEADING TO THE FRONT, IT WAS INEVITABLE
THAT MOST WOULD PASS THROUGH UNION STATION. … AND NO
MATTER HOW LONG THEIR STAY, THE SERVICEMEN COULD ALWAYS
FIND A HOME AWAY FROM HOME WITH THE LOCAL USOS.
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Cox...
I believe the USO served one of the great purposes of morale.
It was a place that an individual who was in a strange area, and
knew basically no one could go and relax. … It took your mind
off of what was happening…
Dungans… there were about 10 or 12 schools, there were
airline schools and radio school. And there must of have been
10,000 or more servicemen attending these schools in KC. So we
had a lot of local fellows who were here….And we were of course
out numbered. |
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LOCAL
WOMEN VOLUNTEERED AS SENIOR AND JUNIOR HOSTESSES AT THE VARIOUS
CLUBS, LENDING A TOUCH OF HOME BY SEWING ON PATCHES OR CHEVRONS,
OR BY SIMPLY TALKING TO THE LONELY RECRUITS. THE USO WAS ALSO
A PLACE TO DANCE.
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Dungans...
Oh, I never learned to dance until after I went to the Canteen.
But out of desperation I guess they taught me how to dance. It
was either that or not have anyone to dance with. |
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ALTHOUGH
THE USO PROVIDED RELIEF FROM THE WAR, IT WAS WHILE OUR BOYS
WERE OVERSEAS THAT THEY MOST YEARNED FOR A SENSE OF HOME.
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Dungans
…I wrote to some that I never knew, never saw. Just writing
letters, because my brother had asked me to write to some of his
friends. …
Smith, P... I wrote to him everyday. He wrote to me, maybe
once or twice a month. And that was understandable …when they
were in combat. |
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MINIATURIZED
V-MAIL ENCOURAGED PEOPLE TO WRITE, AND HELPED MINIMIZE POSTAL
BULK. REGARDLESS, CENSORSHIP PROVED AN OBSTACLE FOR MOST PEOPLE.
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Ellis
...every so often, apparently they would write something that
was censored and then would be blacked out. And sometimes whole
sentences, you know. And you, no matter how you held it up to
the light, you couldn’t read it.
Irvin, J …and that’s why a lot of military guys never wrote
home because what could you say? You couldn’t say what you were
doing , you couldn’t say where you were… |
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ALL TOO
OFTEN LETTERS WERE RETURNED TO SENDER.
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Ellis…And
you wondered, did they lose the address, did they, were they
not living anymore or what. You just never knew.
Kozak... And then there were the sad scary times when
you’d receive a telegram.
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RECEIVING
A TELEGRAM USUALLY MEANT THE WORST FOR MOST FAMILIES. SO WHEN
THE TELEGRAM CAME TO THE WISEMAN HOME, THAT MARTIN WISEMAN
HAD BEEN TAKEN PRISONER BY THE GERMANS, THE FAMILY SIGHED
WITH RELIEF.
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Brown
… everybody was happy that he was safe and thought, …"they
must have to treat them right because of the Geneva convention,"
So, life just kind of went on. And we just waited for news and
did get a few letters from him in there. All he could say was
"They are treating me well... "…I’m looking forward to coming
home and I want a date with my WAC. I’m very proud of her."
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THE DATE,
HOWEVER, NEVER TOOK PLACE. BARBARA’S FATHER DIED OF PNEUMONIA,
STILL A PRISONER OF GERMANY. AS A SHOW OF ABSOLUTE COMMITMENT
TO THE WAR, LIVING ROOM WINDOWS DISPLAYED BANNERS WITH A SILVER
STAR FOR EACH LOVED ONE IN SERVICE. FAMILIES LIKE THE WISEMANS,
CHANGED THEIR SILVER STAR TO GOLD, INDICATING THE ULTIMATE
SACRIFICE. DEDICATING THEMSELVES TO THE IDEOLOGY THAT WE LIVE
BY TODAY, THE MEN AND WOMEN OF OUR MILITARY ACTUALLY FOUGHT
THE BATTLES THAT WE ONLY KNOW BY NAME: NORMANDY, ANZIO, TRIPOLI,
MIDWAY, CORREGIDOR. SO MANY BATTLES, SO MUCH TO GAIN, SO MUCH
TO LOSE.
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Fracul...
You have no idea what fear man has when he sees shells exploding
all around and machine guns chattering…
Boyer... I don’t know how you describe when you’re going
down the road as a platoon and you start to get fired upon …You
run for the ditch, if you can make the ditch…
Fracul... there were times that we didn’t even take our
clothes off for 60 days. No new socks, no nothing. No new underwear,
no nothing for 60 days. … K-rations. Peeyew.
Pollard…You were frightened the majority of the time. And
then you got used to combat, and used to artillery rounds, mortar
rounds and machine gun firing …And you figure that today’s your
last day, so you live the full day. |
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LIVING
THE WHOLE DAY WAS THE ONLY LUXURY FOR OUR AMERICAN PRISONERS
OF WAR.
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Boyer...
We had rifles and pistols and they had tanks. Couldn’t very well
fight a tank with a pistol…So they gave us the opportunity to
give up and we decided to do that.
Woodson... And the fellows were pretty bad off from diarrhea
, dysentery…I think there were taking them out fifty a day and
burying them in one big hole.
Boyer... We were very downhearted and we didn’t know what
was going to happen to us but I don’t believe we ever lost our
patriotism. |
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AS OUR
POWS HOPED FOR RESCUE, THE GLOBAL WAR RAGED ON. BY EARLY 1945,
THE TIDE WAS TURNING FOR THE ALLIED FORCES, AND IT LOOKED
AS IF THE WAR IN EUROPE WAS COMING TO A CLOSE. BUT ANOTHER
ERA CAME TO A CLOSE FIRST WITH THE DEATH ON APRIL 12TH OF
PRESIDENT FRANKLIN DELANO ROOSEVELT.
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Lackey…
and he had been in office since the beginning of time, it seemed
like.
Irvin, J…so it was quite a shock, because we knew no other
president.
Palmer, D…Poor Mr. Truman was kind of the hayseed from
Missouri..,
Boyer...No, a lot of people didn’t like him but you won’t
find a service man in World War II that won’t appreciate what
he did for us. |
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A MONTH
LATER, NAZI GERMANY SURRENDERED. CELEBRATIONS ERUPTED THROUGHOUT
EUROPE. BUT FOR MOST AMERICANS, IT WAS BITTERSWEET.
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Kozak...
That first taste of victory, was wonderful.
Fracul …And I tell you, my knees shook. I had enough of
that front line artillery stuff…
Dungans …Some of my girl friends and I went to church and
that was about the size of it… I mean the battle in the Pacific
was still going on…
Kozak... And we paid a high price in the Pacific. Every
island we took was a tough fight
Lewis... We were told that these people are not going to
give up. We’re going to have to invade Japan
Woodson... I know the Japanese were preparing themselves
to fight to the last man.
Ellis... It looked like it was going to go on forever and
ever and ever. Thank God for Harry Truman.
Palmer, D... When they dropped the atomic bomb, we all
cheered. We, there were jokes, "I hope they have a dozen more"
As far as we were concerned, we would have been happy to bomb
the Japanese back to the stone age.
Davis …you hate to say it. You were glad it happened…
Smith, P …What happened in Nagasaki …was terrible but what
was happening, what happened in the Battle of the Bulge was terrible.
I don’t know anything about war that’s nice. |
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RIGHT
OR WRONG, THE WAR WAS OVER. WHEN THE ANNOUNCEMENT CAME ON
AUGUST 15, OF JAPAN’S CAPITULATION, A SPONTANEOUS SPREE ERUPTED
THE WORLD OVER.
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Bongino...
and there was this parade at 6 o’clock in the morning, and church
bells ringing in the background.
Ellis …we went downtown and it was like New Year’s Eve.
I mean, everybody was in the streets. And everybody was hugging
everybody and kissing everybody. And if you didn’t kiss somebody,
they grabbed you. …
Dungans... Somebody got up on the marquee at Jones Store
down there with a trombone and was playing and singing. … So,
it was kind of wild night…I do think the most destruction anybody
did was some of the hotels down there of slashing pillows and
shaking the feathers out the windows down there. |
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OTHERS
OBSERVED THE WAR’S END IN REMEMBRANCE.
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Winn
…we had a very nice dinner and we had a few drinks and we
had a short prayer for all the boys we knew that were never going
to be able to come back and party with us anymore. |
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EVEN WITH
THE WAR OVER, THERE WAS WORK TO BE DONE. INTERNATIONALLY,
AMERICA ASSISTED IN THE RECONSTRUCTION OF EUROPE AND JAPAN.
NATIONALLY WE BEGAN THE DECONSTRUCTION OF WAR TIME INDUSTRIES.
THE WAR ASSETS ADMINISTRATION CHOSE KANSAS CITY AS ONE OF
THREE SITES TO ACCOUNT FOR AND PROCESS EXCESS SUPPLIES COMING
IN FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD. THE GOVERNMENT’S CONTRACT WITH
THE MANUFACTURERS PREVENTED ANY EQUIPMENT GAINED OR PRODUCED
DURING THE WAR FROM RETURNING TO THE OPEN MARKET AFTER THE
WAR, PROTECTING THEIR PEACETIME PROFITS.
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32Lewis
… And then depending upon what the instructions were from the
gov’t, sometime, it seemed bad, but you would stand there while
the guard would literally destroy a lot of new machinery 24Cantrell
And the poor parts, they hit them with sledge hammers, and throwed
in a box car and away they went. We worked like the Devil on them
and then they just throw them away in a boxcar. Hit it with a
sledgehammer and let it go. |
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BUT MORE
IMPORTANTLY, THE END OF THE WAR BROUGHT OUR BOYS HOME.
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Miles
…that’s really when we started flying the boys, the wounded
boys back from the Pacific. And, so we had many hospital flights.
And they were really the most rewarding work that we did in
the service…they were very ill, they were in litters, many of
them could not walk. … And they never complained no matter how
hot it was, or how cold it was. They were so happy to be coming
home.
Ervin, I …what was fun was to see the women…when their
husbands and friends would come home. That was just a show all
on it’s own.
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THE RETURN
OF THE GI’S MEANT READJUSTMENTS FOR MANY.
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Kozak...
How do you assimilate 6 million people back into a society that
has changed a great deal in the time they’d been gone? How do
you do that?
Spain... Women got to get out in the work force and course
they had to get back out of it when the war over, because we had
all these men coming home lickety-split with no jobs, you know.
Smith, P... The war was over. You know, that’s why we were
there was because of the war…. And we expected not to have a job
when the war was over. |
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BUT THE
WAR OPENED THE DOOR TO NEW ROLES FOR WOMEN AND MINORITIES
IN SOCIETY, SETTING THE STAGE FOR THE SOCIAL REFORM IN LATER
DECADES. THE END OF THE WAR BROUGHT ABOUT OTHER CHANGES AS
WELL.
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H.Smith...
We began to move away from a primarily rural society to an urban
society. The housing developments that were built after the war
became a pattern for the rest of the century.
Laycock... Well, a lot of those factories disbanded but
others started making products that people never even knew they
needed until WWII. I mean, we had ice boxes for years…But everybody
had a refrigerator as soon as they can get one after the war…
And then, ‘course television came along. We became a consumer
society for sure. |
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FIFTY
YEARS LATER, WE LOOK BACK ON WORLD WAR II WITH MIXED EMOTIONS.
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Laycock... It was the only war in my lifetime that everybody
felt like we had to get into to win.
Ervin, I …I heard less complaining then from people, than
any time since in my life. Cantrell... In fact, if it wasn’t
for the war, I never would have been anything but a little old
half-way mechanic…
Bongino... When it was over, a little color and interest
went out. And there was a kind of a plateau of living. …
Thomas …I think the romance is in the history of it.
Lewis …we fought the war so that… all of us would have
the right to be able to say and do the things that we do. …
Palmer, D …The cost was horrible. But at the time there
was no choice.
Fracul …the men that were wounded and that were killed
did more than I ever done. Noble... When I was out on my
roller skates enjoying my youth, they were out and saving us.
Lackey... I felt like, maybe, that I was doing something
that was really right, not only for my country and for me, but
for the world.
Dungans …I think at the time it really brought out the
best in everybody. I think it really did. |
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